need netware client for ubuntu. no compiling, no BS.

I'm not familiar with connecting to NetWare using Ubuntu, but it appears that the ability to connect to NetWare is built into the Samba client. There are some older instructions that might still work at:

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/652.html

You want the "access via GNOME" section if you are using standard Ubuntu.

If you do not have samba installed, you can most easily do this by opening Synaptic Package Manager (System, Administration menu). From there you can install any samba-related packages you like with a few clicks.

Feel free to post more if this does not work for you.

i must be missing something. i believe that i've installed the samba client properly. when i follow the novell instructions, i've entered the internal and external IP addresses for the novell server and get a message that it was unable to get a share list. share lists aren't very novell, they sound like windows. would appreciate further assistance, thanks.

haydens,

Sometimes in Linux you do need to compile. You will often find great walkthroughs too. Do not shy away from compiling if it helps you reach your goal.

What is preferred in ubuntu is to find a ppa repository with a compiled app on it but there is nothing stopping you from compiling your own apps.

Give it a go, you may suprise yourself. You tried Ubuntu instead of windows...why not apply that same mindset to compiling?

it boils down to a fundamental lack of understanding of how and what to compile. where would i find a walkthrough for compiling a netware client?

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haydens,

Sometimes in Linux you do need to compile. You will often find great
walkthroughs too. Do not shy away from compiling if it helps you reach
your goal.

What is preferred in ubuntu is to find a ppa repository with a compiled
app on it but there is nothing stopping you from compiling your own
apps.

Give it a go, you may suprise yourself. You tried Ubuntu instead of
windows...why not apply that same mindset to compiling?

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Searching the Ubuntu documentation provides two links, you may want to review them as I have no ability to confirm whether they work, or truly answer your question. But its a good place to start.

https://help.ubuntu.com/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9&cx=003883529982892832976%3Ae2vwumte3fq&ie=UTF-8&q=netware+client+install&sa=Search

Good luck,

jeruvy,
thanks for trying, but those links don't really answer my question. is there a novell netware client for linux and if so, where can i find it? i'm trying to connect to a netware network, i don't know if i'll have printing problems (one focus of your suggestion) until i'm able to connect to it. i've been in the windows world for 25 years, i'd like to explore linux as a desktop alternative, but i'm beginning to conclude that the masses don't stand a chance in a business environment with linux if it's this difficult to simply connect to a network.

-jeff

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Your question #73168 on yelp in ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+question/73168

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Jeruvy proposed the following answer:
Searching the Ubuntu documentation provides two links, you may want to
review them as I have no ability to confirm whether they work, or truly
answer your question. But its a good place to start.

https://help.ubuntu.com/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9&cx=003883529982892832976%3Ae2vwumte3fq&ie=UTF-8&q=netware+client+install&sa=Search

Good luck,

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Well it actually forgetting that Novell is a proprietary product from Novell. If Novell won't support Linux then this is not Linux's fault, it is Novell's.
If you want a Linux based business system, it is completely possible and many companys and infact schools do:
http://linux.com/archive/feature/144852
is one example.
Don't bad mouth an OS just because a proprietary product you desire doesn't work as it is very hard to support due to proprietary standards. NTFS-3g is one example of years of research by the NTFS-3g team but is in no way helped by Microsoft. Samba HAS been aided by Microsoft and helps clients connect to shared folders.

chill, dude. you're getting worked up unnecessarily. i am not aware that novell doesn't support linux. i was under the impression that SUSE is linux and that novell owns it now. netware is a proprietary product, true. my ubuntu doesn't come with a client capable of even seeing a netware network. is it because it's proprietary? my ubuntu sees three microsoft servers with no trouble. why is that? my problem is that if i'm running a crappy windows operating system on my desktop, i can get a novell client. if i'm running any linux other than SUSE, i can't.

look, if any linux desktop is going to survive in the workplace as something more significant that an experimental platform, they have to provide connectivity to all networks, with the same facility as does the windows desktop. linux needs to exceed windows in stability, capability and security to make inroads in the workplace community. thousands of netware networks are running just fine, thank you, in law offices, school systems, libraries, accounting firms, engineering firms, universities. etc. 95% of these institutions are saddled with crappy windows on the desktops because there is yet no practical alternative to MS. not that i could do it, but honestly, how f'ing hard is it to concoct a netware client?

look, i'm the IT partner at a large local CPA firm in northern virginia. i've hated MS since windows 3.11, i hate their software, i hate their unstable insecure toy desktop operating systems, i hate their licensing scheme of the month. i'd kill to get MS out of my firm, but i've been dumbed down by using windows for 20+ years, so i'm struggling to find a path that doesn't bankrupt the firm. i know that can't get rid of the cancer that is MS windows until i've got something that is not only as functional, but more functional that MS. this is the law of inertia, it's gotta be better to get people to want it. right now, linux isn't better, it isn't even functional for us, and i despair of that fact.

-jeff

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Your question #73168 on yelp in ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+question/73168

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actionparsnip proposed the following answer:
Well it actually forgetting that Novell is a proprietary product from Novell. If Novell won't support Linux then this is not Linux's fault, it is Novell's.
If you want a Linux based business system, it is completely possible and many companys and infact schools do:
http://linux.com/archive/feature/144852
is one example.
Don't bad mouth an OS just because a proprietary product you desire doesn't work as it is very hard to support due to proprietary standards. NTFS-3g is one example of years of research by the NTFS-3g team but is in no way helped by Microsoft. Samba HAS been aided by Microsoft and helps clients connect to shared folders.

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haydens,

I finally found some information that may be useful for you: There is a command called "ncpmount" that may be available to let you do this. See the following for an example of a user using this successfully:

   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204690

I *think* the ncpmount command is available as part of the ncpfs package. You should be able to install the ncpfs package using Synaptic or in a terminal with:

   sudo apt-get install ncpfs ipx

The ipx is a recommended package for ncpfs, so you may need to install this separately in Synaptic depending on your configuration.

That's a pretty no-fuss method of installing it, but as far as using it, you'll probably want to look for examples like the above on Google or read the ncpmount man page after installing.

I sincerely hope that helps you. Let us know if you need more assistance.

Looks like someone made it.

Linux can see Windows servers as samba exists. Samba has been made in conjunction with Microsoft and allows you to communicate with the file shares using a protocol the servers understand. As a lot of what you say and use is propietary it is hard to get a close product to support what goes on as the design and functionality is guarded and not freely available.

This is evident in open source flash plugins. Flash itself is proprietary to Adobe and the only good way to get a good flash plugin is to use Adobe's plugin, however open source plugins do exist bu as the layout and design of how flash is used by files made with Adobe's flash creator is hidden, all the team at gnash (for example) can do is trial and error.

If you dislike Windows so much, do not implement it on your servers. Tonnes of high level companies (including the one I work for) have several hundred Linux (Redhat distro to be exact) servers that run great.

If companies will not support Linux then they will alienate that user base as they have no way to use their products, this is why I use only nvidia graphics cards as they have supported linux to give 3D accelleration for many years. ATi used to only have the open source driver but now ATi are making their drivers for Linux so people can enjoy their products more throughly.

Hope you get the netware client dude. Let us know how you get on.