Plan for Eclipse 3.6 (Helios)

Asked by Hernan Soulages

I see that Natty Narwhal release is based on Galileo. Is there a reason not to move to Helios? A lot of people end up downloading from the Eclipse site because the package that comes with ubuntu/debian is usually one or two releases behind.

Question information

Language:
English Edit question
Status:
Solved
For:
Ubuntu eclipse Edit question
Assignee:
No assignee Edit question
Solved by:
actionparsnip
Solved:
Last query:
Last reply:
Revision history for this message
Best actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#1

Yes because Ubuntu is not a rolling release and packages are reviewd before implementation. You may use 3rd party PPAs to get newer releases but the ones in the repos are tried and tested as good.

Revision history for this message
Hernan Soulages (hernan-launchpad) said :
#2

Fair enough. Any recommended PPA? Searching for Eclipse Ubuntu points to here or instructions on downloading from Eclipse.org.

Revision history for this message
Benjamin Drung (bdrung) said :
#3

actionparsnip explanation is not the reason for not having Eclipse 3.6 in Ubuntu.

When building the Debian/Ubuntu package, we have to remove all pre-compiled files from the source tarball and build everything from source. This leads to an weired build failure [1] with Eclipse 3.6, which we failed to debug. We have a TODO list for Eclipse [2]. Due to this build failure, you probably won't find a PPA with Eclipse 3.6.

How to get Eclipse 3.6 into Ubuntu? Someone with ant knowledge needs to debug the build failure. Join #debian-java on OTFC if you want to help.

[1] http://people.ubuntu.com/~bdrung/build-failure/
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/Eclipse/Packaging

Revision history for this message
Christoph Buchner (bilderbuchi) said :
#4

any updates on this? sry I can't really help here with no ant knowledge :-(

Revision history for this message
actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#5

Found one :)

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eclipse-team/debian-package; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install eclipse; sudo apt-get -y upgrade

Should do it

BOOYA!!

Revision history for this message
actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#6

That's for maverick though..

Revision history for this message
actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#7

You could switch to maverick if the app is critical to you

Revision history for this message
Christoph Buchner (bilderbuchi) said :
#8

considering that the latest version in this PPA was uploaded by Benjamin long before he posted in here that it doesn't work, I don't know if using this PPA is such a smart idea.

Revision history for this message
Benjamin Drung (bdrung) said :
#9

You can use the Eclipse version from the PPA. It was one build of our packaging branch.

Revision history for this message
Christoph Buchner (bilderbuchi) said :
#10

Yeah, what I don't get is that the version in that PPA was uploaded by you in July 2010. Half a year _later_ you post that we won't find a PPA because of a build failure, when apparently there's been a 3.6 package sitting in said PPA for half a year.
So I was confused and figured that something's strange with that PPA. What am I not getting here?

Revision history for this message
Benjamin Drung (bdrung) said :
#11

I forgot that I uploaded this snapshot to the PPA to test the build (it sometimes built and sometimes failed back then).

Revision history for this message
Christoph Buchner (bilderbuchi) said :
#12

Ah, ic, thanks for the clarification.

Revision history for this message
Stephen Kestle (stephen-kestle) said :
#13

Hang on - why is this question marked as "solved"? There is no eclipse 3.6 in the ubuntu repositories yet, nor an outlined plan of when it's going to get there.

So, since this problem still exists, I'd like to know what the plan for getting 3.6(.2) into the ubuntu repositories.

Also does "(it sometimes built and sometimes failed back then)" mean that it always fails now? If not, then why can't we proceed?

Revision history for this message
Benjamin Drung (bdrung) said :
#14

The upgrade to eclipse 3.6 is tracked in bug #604390.

"(it sometimes built and sometimes failed back then)" changed to "it always fails now".

There is no schedule for getting eclipse 3.6 into Ubuntu. If someone steps up and helps us to get eclipse 3.6 building, we will have eclipse 3.6 in Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric).