Will I still be able to play Tiger Woods 08 with Ubuntu

There's a chance that it will work with WINE: 'sudo apt-get wine'

According to this page, it may work but not very well: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11690

I guess you can only try.

Is there anybody out there that is or are playing Tiger Woods 08 after installing Ubuntu?

Thanks my friend but I really need confirmation before changing.

I prefer a proper dual-boot system. At first it meant i only used Ubuntu when i had time to explore but eventually i found myself booting into Ubuntu more often and now i have very little to go back to Windows for. I still have a lot of movies and things on my Windows side but i tend to watch them in Ubuntu nowadays.

Here's how to set-up a good dual-boot ...

Ideally you need about 15Gb free space but at the moment i'm only using about 10Gb and its quite happy :) Just put the Ubuntu Cd in the machine but don't try to install Ubuntu inside Windows! Just switch the machine off and on again (reboot). If you have trouble getting to the Ubuntu menu then here's a guide
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD

Choose the option "Try Ubuntu without making changes to my machine", or something like that! This is a good way to see if Ubuntu looks right and lets you try a demo of Ubuntu. It is a lot slower off the Cd but still gives a generally fair impression of the "look and feel" of Ubuntu, we call the desktop environment you get this way a "LiveCd session" (even if it's from a usb stick lol). Although now i'm more used to linux i tend to feel like i'm wading through treacle trying to use it. I didn't notice how slow it was when all i had used before was Windows. Sometimes there are hardware issues worth finding out how to deal with before you start installing. If you've ever installed Windows or anything you'll know what i mean! Usually even quite serious looking problems are fairly easy to fix, especially with help from the forums here. When you're ready to install then this guide helps set up a very robust system so that you have a choice which OS; Windows or Ubuntu to login into at each bootup.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Most of us keep the dual-boot. Installing Windows is a nightmare so it's usually better just to leave it on there but maybe gradually reduce it's size if you really feel the need to go that far. Ubuntu is much easier because it includes a lot of what i would now consider 'basic packages', such as a fairly decent movie player, dvd/cd burning stuff a bit like Nero, Office, decent web-browser (safer than IE) and a whole lot more that would each have to be separately 'bought' and installed in Windows. So, like i say, it's easier to keep a working Windows if you already have one :)

To help you migrate to a linux, preferably Ubuntu because it's probably my favourite one ;), here are some reference guides for looking stuff up rather than reading intensely lol
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeSoftwareAlternatives

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus?highlight=(\bCategorySecurity\b)

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
This last guide is worth skimming all the way through. It show a much easier way of finding and installing programs than the Windows way of searching all over the internet and then trying to find if what you've found is safe enough to use, and then try to keep the program updated safely. Synaptic does the whole job for all the programs/codecs/games/applications that are available. There is an even easier way of installing programs tho. On the top taskbar
Applications - Add/Remove Programs
this does the same as Synaptic, it also does all the hunting for you and also has a good search tool but for this one you have to type in the title of program i think. In synaptic the search button hunts through program descriptions as well. Windows has something called "Add/Remove Programs" too but the Windows one doesn't "Add" stuff and isn't searchable and lacks a lot compared to these tools.

Ok, lastly the probably most crucial link for you at your stage, especially given the question you ask
http://winehq.org/
I give it last because Wine is available in Synaptic and Synaptic is the better way to install stuff. Some of the versions on the Wine website , although they are clearly labelled, are often installed even though they are beta versions! Once you have a bit more experience with linux then i'm sure you'll join most of us in trying out beta versions to see how much more you can do with it than anyone else, and see if you can spot things that need fixing too ;) But to start with it's better to stick with the stable version that we know 'just works'

Good luck and enjoy ;)
Regards from
Tom :)

Tom thanks for your advice. I have a laptop working OK. I have a Pentium 4
desk tower that picked up a bad virus and a "'so called IT" that made more
damage after fords. I have to make the decision of loading with XP (witch I
have to buy or loading with Ubuntu) . You are talking of a dual boot system
that will not solve my question or problem. I need to know if I will be
able to play my games if I use Ubuntu only. Thanks.Carel.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Question #67893]: Will I still be able to play Tiger Woods
08with Ubuntu

Your question #67893 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/67893

    Status: Open => Answered

Tom proposed the following answer:
I prefer a proper dual-boot system. At first it meant i only used
Ubuntu when i had time to explore but eventually i found myself booting
into Ubuntu more often and now i have very little to go back to Windows
for. I still have a lot of movies and things on my Windows side but i
tend to watch them in Ubuntu nowadays.

Here's how to set-up a good dual-boot ...

Ideally you need about 15Gb free space but at the moment i'm only using
about 10Gb and its quite happy :) Just put the Ubuntu Cd in the machine but
don't try to install Ubuntu inside Windows! Just switch the machine off and
on again (reboot). If you have trouble getting to the Ubuntu menu then
here's a guide
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD

Choose the option "Try Ubuntu without making changes to my machine", or
something like that! This is a good way to see if Ubuntu looks right and
lets you try a demo of Ubuntu. It is a lot slower off the Cd but still
gives a generally fair impression of the "look and feel" of Ubuntu, we call
the desktop environment you get this way a "LiveCd session" (even if it's
from a usb stick lol). Although now i'm more used to linux i tend to feel
like i'm wading through treacle trying to use it. I didn't notice how slow
it was when all i had used before was Windows. Sometimes there are hardware
issues worth finding out how to deal with before you start installing. If
you've ever installed Windows or anything you'll know what i mean! Usually
even quite serious looking problems are fairly easy to fix, especially with
help from the forums here. When you're ready to install then this guide
helps set up a very robust system so that you have a choice which OS;
Windows or Ubuntu to login into at each bootup.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Most of us keep the dual-boot. Installing Windows is a nightmare so
it's usually better just to leave it on there but maybe gradually reduce
it's size if you really feel the need to go that far. Ubuntu is much
easier because it includes a lot of what i would now consider 'basic
packages', such as a fairly decent movie player, dvd/cd burning stuff a
bit like Nero, Office, decent web-browser (safer than IE) and a whole
lot more that would each have to be separately 'bought' and installed in
Windows. So, like i say, it's easier to keep a working Windows if you
already have one :)

To help you migrate to a linux, preferably Ubuntu because it's probably my
favourite one ;), here are some reference guides for looking stuff up rather
than reading intensely lol
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeSoftwareAlternatives

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus?highlight=(\bCategorySecurity\b)

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
This last guide is worth skimming all the way through. It show a much
easier way of finding and installing programs than the Windows way of
searching all over the internet and then trying to find if what you've found
is safe enough to use, and then try to keep the program updated safely.
Synaptic does the whole job for all the programs/codecs/games/applications
that are available. There is an even easier way of installing programs tho.
On the top taskbar
Applications - Add/Remove Programs
this does the same as Synaptic, it also does all the hunting for you and
also has a good search tool but for this one you have to type in the title
of program i think. In synaptic the search button hunts through program
descriptions as well. Windows has something called "Add/Remove Programs"
too but the Windows one doesn't "Add" stuff and isn't searchable and lacks a
lot compared to these tools.

Ok, lastly the probably most crucial link for you at your stage, especially
given the question you ask
http://winehq.org/
I give it last because Wine is available in Synaptic and Synaptic is the
better way to install stuff. Some of the versions on the Wine website ,
although they are clearly labelled, are often installed even though they are
beta versions! Once you have a bit more experience with linux then i'm sure
you'll join most of us in trying out beta versions to see how much more you
can do with it than anyone else, and see if you can spot things that need
fixing too ;) But to start with it's better to stick with the stable
version that we know 'just works'

Good luck and enjoy ;)
Regards from
Tom :)

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Ubuntu is Free so try it first?

Perhaps try using a LiveCd session to install Wine and use their website for guidance. Also see if there is a native linux version of that program using Synaptic Package Manager

Alternatively try installing Ubuntu properly as described
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/dualboot
and then install Wine into that and use their website for guidance. Often i have repaired Windows 'totally dead' machines just by installing a linux in as a dual-boot. Linux fixes the MBR of the drive and installs it's own very much more robust Boot-Loader which automatically adds a menu item for any other Operating System it finds on the machines drives, such as Windows, Mac, Unix, Bsd, other linux's etc.

You can also install ClamAv (anti-virus) in Ubuntu to scan and remove infected files from the Windows 'drives' (really usually partitions, not really physical drives - Windows just likes to confuse the issues)
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
You could do this from either a LiveCd session or from a proper install.

If Windows still doesn't work after the antivirus and the proper dual-boot install then sometimes Windows just needs a certain file or two, such as hal.dll or something and often you can just find the appropriate missing file on another machine or find it on the internet using a linux's web-browser, and then copy it into the right place to fix the Windows. This type of repair is something that makes a dual-boot system very much more robust than having either OS alone.

Most Windows applications work just as easily in Ubuntu under Wine as they do in Windows. Just double-click on the file. But sometimes a game or something might need a bit more work to get it working properly. The Wine project has set up it's own database of applications and how to get them to work, however, some games manufacturers try to make it very difficult to run their game on any other platform than the one they chose. Sometimes just contacting them by email can be enough for them to point out a native linux version or for them to provide a patch to allow the game to run on something else. Mostly this is just because they seem very short-sighted in sticking to using DirectX graphics rather than using the OpenGL alternative (or at least having an option to use OpenGL) but as i said Wine can usually get these DirectX games working, but not always and not all the infinite variety of hardware combinations have been tried yet so no-one can say for certain whether a specific game will or wont work under Wine.

If a particular game is one of those rare ones that doesn't work in Wine yet, then there is always the option of running a Virtual Machine. Ubuntu and most linux's almost always seem to include VirtualBox in their package manager lists but there are other programs that do the same thing. There are also emulators of some of the slightly older PlayStations and such-like, sometimes these include an OS of their own. A virtual machine will probably need Windows or something installed onto it. If you can find the ProductKey of your existing Windows then you should be able to install Windows using that code, just as you should be able to reinstall Windows anyway without re-purchasing it. No need to buy a new code because you are installing the same version of Windows to the same machine, as their checking procedure will confirm. It is possible to register over the phone with Microsoft Customer Care as long as you tell them it's the same machine and don't confuse sales staff with irrelevant technical details such as VirtualBox.

So first step is try Ubuntu out, see if your games run. If you have 1 or 2 that don't then try using Wine. If you are really unlucky then you'd need to find a Windows Cd from somewhere. As you will have seen from the dual-boot link i gave earlier there are various place you can go to try to demand the Cd that you are legally entitled to in most of the world. Or perhaps you already have a Windows system-rescue cd with the laptop or the main machine or perhaps you'll find during the Ubuntu install (when you use "Guided Partitioning" as described) that the main machine has a rescue partition hidden on the hard drive.

Without trying Ubuntu it's very difficult to give anything except vague answers. If you try it and then let us know (or ask the Wine forums too) then we might be able to suggest something a bit more certain.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

Hi Tom,
You seem to be a stand up guy. What I want to do is; 1st, download Ubuntu on
a cd and put the cd in to the tower and then see what happens. 2nd, put a cd
with Widows XP in the tower and see what happens. The question is can I
count on contacting you personally for assistance and do you agree with my
above steps?
Thanks for coming back to me,
Carel.
Ps. if you were in Cape Town I would have buy you a beer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Question #67893]: Will I still be able to play Tiger
Woods08with Ubuntu

Your question #67893 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/67893

    Status: Open => Answered

Tom proposed the following answer:
Ubuntu is Free so try it first?

Perhaps try using a LiveCd session to install Wine and use their website
for guidance. Also see if there is a native linux version of that
program using Synaptic Package Manager

Alternatively try installing Ubuntu properly as described
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/dualboot
and then install Wine into that and use their website for guidance. Often i
have repaired Windows 'totally dead' machines just by installing a linux in
as a dual-boot. Linux fixes the MBR of the drive and installs it's own very
much more robust Boot-Loader which automatically adds a menu item for any
other Operating System it finds on the machines drives, such as Windows,
Mac, Unix, Bsd, other linux's etc.

You can also install ClamAv (anti-virus) in Ubuntu to scan and remove
infected files from the Windows 'drives' (really usually partitions, not
really physical drives - Windows just likes to confuse the issues)
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
You could do this from either a LiveCd session or from a proper install.

If Windows still doesn't work after the antivirus and the proper dual-
boot install then sometimes Windows just needs a certain file or two,
such as hal.dll or something and often you can just find the appropriate
missing file on another machine or find it on the internet using a
linux's web-browser, and then copy it into the right place to fix the
Windows. This type of repair is something that makes a dual-boot system
very much more robust than having either OS alone.

Most Windows applications work just as easily in Ubuntu under Wine as
they do in Windows. Just double-click on the file. But sometimes a
game or something might need a bit more work to get it working properly.
The Wine project has set up it's own database of applications and how to
get them to work, however, some games manufacturers try to make it very
difficult to run their game on any other platform than the one they
chose. Sometimes just contacting them by email can be enough for them
to point out a native linux version or for them to provide a patch to
allow the game to run on something else. Mostly this is just because
they seem very short-sighted in sticking to using DirectX graphics
rather than using the OpenGL alternative (or at least having an option
to use OpenGL) but as i said Wine can usually get these DirectX games
working, but not always and not all the infinite variety of hardware
combinations have been tried yet so no-one can say for certain whether a
specific game will or wont work under Wine.

If a particular game is one of those rare ones that doesn't work in Wine
yet, then there is always the option of running a Virtual Machine.
Ubuntu and most linux's almost always seem to include VirtualBox in
their package manager lists but there are other programs that do the
same thing. There are also emulators of some of the slightly older
PlayStations and such-like, sometimes these include an OS of their own.
A virtual machine will probably need Windows or something installed onto
it. If you can find the ProductKey of your existing Windows then you
should be able to install Windows using that code, just as you should be
able to reinstall Windows anyway without re-purchasing it. No need to
buy a new code because you are installing the same version of Windows to
the same machine, as their checking procedure will confirm. It is
possible to register over the phone with Microsoft Customer Care as long
as you tell them it's the same machine and don't confuse sales staff
with irrelevant technical details such as VirtualBox.

So first step is try Ubuntu out, see if your games run. If you have 1
or 2 that don't then try using Wine. If you are really unlucky then
you'd need to find a Windows Cd from somewhere. As you will have seen
from the dual-boot link i gave earlier there are various place you can
go to try to demand the Cd that you are legally entitled to in most of
the world. Or perhaps you already have a Windows system-rescue cd with
the laptop or the main machine or perhaps you'll find during the Ubuntu
install (when you use "Guided Partitioning" as described) that the main
machine has a rescue partition hidden on the hard drive.

Without trying Ubuntu it's very difficult to give anything except vague
answers. If you try it and then let us know (or ask the Wine forums
too) then we might be able to suggest something a bit more certain.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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lol thanks :)
Err, i might not be around so it might be good to post questions on individual separate issues to the front desk
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+addquestion

Different people have different expertise so it's best to let the whole of the front-desk see. I'm not much good with video, graphics or sound for example. You can always copy and paste the url link to the question into here or post the url link of this question
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/67893
into your new question. Just to save repeating yourself ;)

The first part of your plan sounds good but avoid putting the Windows Cd in. Windows don't do "Live Cd sessions" on their installer disks so putting it in will try to overwrite your Windows partitions! I am guessing that you have some data on your Windows 'drives' (partitions) which we would want to backup safely somewhere else before trying the Windows install. The first step is simply to try booting up from the Ubuntu Cd and see if the default option to "Try Ubuntu without changes" gets you to a working desktop.

Hopefully the web-browser "Firefox" would work straight from the LiveCD so that you could navigate into these forums to copy&paste any answers people give you if you have any issues. Also the LiveCd should be able to read your Windows drives from the "Places" menu on the top taskbar so that you could copy your data from "My Documents" onto an external drive or to dvd or something. The dvd/cd burner is in
Applications - Sound&Video - Brasero

Cheap 'write once' cd's tend to be better than expensive multi-write ones or dvd's or anything. I tend to get a pack of 10 cheap ones from the supermarket. Usually all you need do is put one in the cd tray and double-click the iso file but here's a help file
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
just in case :)

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

Arrgh i have just realised how long has gone by. If you have tried putting a Windows disk in then this link might be worth reading. Certainly the 1st paragraph!
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery

Hpe this isn't needed!
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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