Ubuntu 6.06, 6.10 and 7.04 Freeze on my compluter

Hi, and thanks for your question.

This sounds like a hardware failure to me. Does Windows (if you have one) freeze/ act abnormally too?

Seems like it might get too hot and freeze. Make sure all of your fans are working properly.

Also, sometimes the command :
sudo acpi -t
and make sure its not too hot.

Also, check your logs to see if anything shows up.

I currently don’t have windows Xp installed and I’m not planing on installing it. Ubuntu 6,06 works perfectlly for me now, so I guess its not a hardware problem ... or am I mistaken? Everything is ok, It is true my tempature of the hard disk went up several times and over heated but I belive that happen due to the cause of the outside tempature.

When the computer freezes, can you still move the mouse around, but there is just no responds when you click on something?

Would you have a chance to run a performance monitor (like Ksysguard or equivalent ot top in a terminal window), that you can see if any process takes all your cpu time?

Thanks

Did you install some binary-only driver such as the nvidia-glx one?

If so, where did you get it from? Did you use the ubuntu packaged version or did you get it from the nvidia website.

Well actually I can still move my mouse around but nothing respond on my click. I haven’t installed any nvdia drivers only the one I got in the Syntax Package Manager. However when I did that and then deleted everything and installed 6.06 I think drivers was deleted also so that shouldn’t be a problem for the live cd not responding. Ralph Janke I can’t do that because before I even get my mouse to open that or pressing ctrl alt delete everything stop responding.

You could run the performance monitor before it happens and keep it somewhere in the screen where you can see it.

How?

Does the freeze happen before you log in or after ?

After I login!

So.. can you first before doing anything else after the login start a performance monitor that shows you the processes that using most of the cpu. You can also make the window be always above all other windows (Click on the icon on the left side of the title bar of the window and select Advance->Keep above others). Now you use your computer in a normal way and you can always see this window.. When your computer freezes, you should be able to see if a process uses the cpu (like 99% or something like that).

Thanks

No I can’t! Because I can’t get that far. I login then I go system > administration then it freeze, it goes too fast.

Can I shut thoose that I don’t need down somehow?

Out of curiosity, when the computer is frozen does the combination ALT-CTRL-BACKSPACE do anything?

I would put the Ubuntu CD in the drive and run the RAM check in the beginning. It would be good to see if anything messes up there.

Try running the live cd for a little while and see what happens.

The problem was solved! The best Ubuntu Community has approved my request for Ubuntu 7.04 and send me the CDs, when I put that CD in everything works perfect, thanks guys for replaying and thank to Ubuntu Community for solving the problem! I look forward to many years of staying with Ubuntu.

Cheers

Sorry, my problem is back, I have Ubuntu 7.04 the hardware is ok, and I have system perfomance turned on, when pc freeze nothing not ordinary is on it, absolutely nothing!

But I still have the problem and I can’t work like this

Perhaps telling us your hardware could be a starting point.
If you manage to give us the output of a sudo lshw -short command would be nice, otherwise just list here the major components (cpu, memory, motherboard, sound card, video card, network cards, etc.).
Also tell us what version of Ubuntu you are using (if you can the output of a uname -a command).

On the PC I have problem with I’m running Ubuntu 7.04 and its hardware is as follows:

Processor: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+
Motherboard: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ from Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
Mouse-Keyboard: Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro from Logitech
Audio Controller: VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller from VIA Technologies, Inc.
Graphic Card: NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440-SE] from nVidia Corporation
Memory: 512MB
CPU: ???

Thanks,

do you have the 64 or the 32 bit version of 7.04?

I don’t now that sorry! I have the one I got when I ordered a free CD and Ubuntu Community send it.

On the screen when I ordered it it says PC-edition

I guess you have the 32 bits then.
It is very difficult for us to understand what is wrong with your PC, all the debugging tools need a running machine.

There are some booting problems with the 32 bit version on AMD 64 machines. They can be solved adding these options to your boot line:

irqpoll pci=noacpi noapic nolapic acpi=off

It is worth trying them.

You can also try to boot in recovery mode. This could help to narrow the problem down.

Also, as suggested before, you should try a complete memtest (its long but worth doing it).

Other than that I can only suggest to try the AMD64 version.

Well I don’ t think the AMD64 Version will work on my PC, however I have found out how to keep my PC running so if you have any commands you wish me to enter into the terminal please post them and I will show you the results.

Also I think I have a x86 not 32 or 64 bit version if thats the right think.

Well, to start with you can tell us how you keep your PC running? Wasn't this the problem!?
You can see the version giving this command:

uname -m

For AMD64 it should be x86_64, for 32 bits is i386

It says i686 so I have 32 bits version if I’m right. Well I’m keeping my PC up in a very weird kind of way ... I was going to backup my documents on a USB as thats the fastest way anyway when I put the USB in and do thinks on the PC everything is cool but something is happening with the USB, as it seems something is going up and down from it but I’m not uploading or downloading anything from it. Well I don’t mind leaving it in their but there has to be something that will solve this problem after all I can’t have the USB in the PC everyday.

Ok, nevermind me saying anything about solving it as the problem is back the USB doesn’t work anymore ... shame, I can’t work normally on it again and I hate it! Mouse clicks doesn’t work but keyboard does I have press CTRL > ALT > DELETE and opened a system perfomance, nothing is taking my CPU is just that mouse stop working and not responding on my clicks but it does MOVE!

Its crazy I now but could anyone help me to solve this before I choose to go back to Windows.

Also yea I forgot to mention, when I restart or turn on the PC, I get that drag tool automatically, also just as a note mouse click doesn’t work on the start but when draging over the directory and pressing enter I can open it.

So just to clarify then, you are saying that your mouse stops working? So in fact your computer is not freezing at all, but simply the mouse is not working right?

Well so much happened already so I think it will be best if I put everything in:

I have installed Ubuntu 7.04 on 26. April 2007 then on 8.5. 2007 my dialup connection was terminated so I just connected again with the help of terminal (sudo pppoeconf). Everything was good till my pc start doing weird thinks like slowing down, not responding to my clicks, freezing...

I had desktop effects turned on but I have read that they might slow down my pc so I turned it off and went playing a game throuth Cedega. Everything was normally then my pc suddenly crash while I went in kitchen to get some food. I just turned it on again then thinks like this begin to happen:

 - computer freeze
 - mouse/keyboard not responding to clicks

Today so 17.5. 2007 I found out that my PC doesn’t crash if I have my USB turned in how ever after a hour so this "trick" was not doing its mention anymore. I’m currently replaying from the PC that is doing the problems and I have system control turned on but nothing even on crashes or freezing takes my CPU to 99% or something like that, I now Firefox takes a bit more CPU but that shouldn’t be the problem.

According to Cedega this is my system:

HARDWARE INFORMATION:
CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+
CPU GHz: 1.8
Memory (MB) 503

VIDEO CARD: - NVIDIA Corporation
Type: GeForce4 MX 440-SE/AGP/SSE2/3DNOW!
Video/Ram (MB):64
AGP Memory Available: 44

I first tried to reinstall 7.04 the same problem was happening on both live CD and when the installation was complete, the same was also happening on 6.10 but NOT on 6.06.

Well so much happened already so I think it will be best if I put everything in:

I have installed Ubuntu 7.04 on 26. April 2007 then on 8.5. 2007 my dialup connection was terminated so I just connected again with the help of terminal (sudo pppoeconf). Everything was good till my pc start doing weird thinks like slowing down, not responding to my clicks, freezing...

I had desktop effects turned on but I have read that they might slow down my pc so I turned it off and went playing a game throuth Cedega. Everything was normally then my pc suddenly crash while I went in kitchen to get some food. I just turned it on again then thinks like this begin to happen:

 - computer freeze
 - mouse/keyboard not responding to clicks

Today so 17.5. 2007 I found out that my PC doesn’t crash if I have my USB turned in how ever after a hour so this "trick" was not doing its mention anymore. I’m currently replaying from the PC that is doing the problems and I have system control turned on but nothing even on crashes or freezing takes my CPU to 99% or something like that, I now Firefox takes a bit more CPU but that shouldn’t be the problem.

According to Cedega this is my system:

HARDWARE INFORMATION:
CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+
CPU GHz: 1.8
Memory (MB) 503

VIDEO CARD: - NVIDIA Corporation
Type: GeForce4 MX 440-SE/AGP/SSE2/3DNOW!
Video/Ram (MB):64
AGP Memory Available: 44
Driver Version: 1.5.8 NVIDIA 96.31

SOUND CARD: VIA 8237 with ALC850 at 0xbc00, irq 2
Driver: ALSA Version 1.0.13

Everything here seems to be correct except Memory, my memory is 512 not 503, but I always thought that Cedega leave some memory to other task.

To answer your question Peter Cruickshank: No, computer in fact freezes and or mouse/keyboard is not responding, actually even the PC shuts it self down here and here. When the PC freeze I have no other option left than to restart it so thats what I do to get it back up again.

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I currently have desktop effects turned off, and all the settings are as the Ubuntu set them when installed, everything I did was installing a few more applications, this are:

- Cedega
- Wine
- Automatix
- Skype
- Kolour Paint
- KTorrent
- Adobe Reader
- Virus Scanner
- Nvu
- Quanta
- Amarox
- NeroLinux

I have also installed the extensions for video, music ..., windows fonts and OpenOffice Clip Arts

And some firefox extensions:

- FireFTP

This are all the informations put in once, please forgive me for the message just before this if there is any, because I clicked I solved the problem on my own by mistake!

Hello,
try to disable the powernowd.
After that my system works nearly perfect.

Regards
Sven Marcel Buchholz

If you don’t mind me asking what is powernowd, and how do I shut it down?

Hello,
powernowd is the CPU Frequency manager.
To disable it go to System-Administration-Services and deselect the CPU Frequency manager (powernowd).

Sven Marcel Buchholz