OpenShot Video Editor

Why creating a new video-editor?

Asked by jeanphilippe.green@gmail.com

Why creating a new video-editor for Linux when you can help other projects that have almost the same goals as you? PiTiVi is a non-linear video-editor created with python and gtk+ and has almost the same goals as you. Why not helping that project rather than doing your own project?

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Helen McCall (wildnfree) said : 		#1

This is a bloody silly question!

This is the same as saying:

"Why did someone start building New York when Paris had already been partly built? Why did they not just go and help build Paris?"

This is the same as saying:

"Why did Linus Torvalds create another operating system when windoze already existed? Why didn't he just go and work for microsoft?"

These are all bloody silly questions. This is just throwing negativity at creative people.

JeanPhillippe - why don't you try becoming creative and build something yourself instead of criticising other people for working hard on creative projects?

Helen

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Dave Phillips (dave-linux-sound) said : 		#2

I don't know anything about the personalities involved, but I'll try a little less aggravated response to answer the original question. Jean Phillippe, have you looked at PiTiVi yet or tried to use it ? I compared it to Kdenlive recently, and frankly there's no comparison at all. PiTiVi has some nice ideas but the project is in its infancy and it wasn't really usable when I last tried it (a few weeks ago). What I've seen of OpenShot so far shows me that it's already far beyond PiTiVi's current development. Perhaps it would be wiser for the PiTiVi devs to get on-board the OpenShot project. :)

Btw, using Launchpad is a poor substitute for a forum, but I suspect the devs and community are already acutely aware of that.

dp

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jeanphilippe.green@gmail.com (jeanphilippe-green) said : 		#3

Okay, so sorry for putting this question here, but I didn't know where else I could put it.

>>This is the same as saying:
>>"Why did Linus Torvalds create another operating system when windoze already existed? Why didn't he just go and work for microsoft?"

I got to say it isn't the same thing. Linus and Microsoft had two completely different goals and philosophies, while I don't see any differences in the goals or philosophies between PiTiVi and openShot. If you know any differences between the projects I would like to know, and I would mark this question as solved.

I hope you understand this was a question, not a criticism. I'm not a good programmer yet, so I wouldn't be able to help any of these projects, but I just think it's a lot more work for the developers if they "reinvent the wheel". I hope I can help these projects as soon as possible, but right now it's not possible.

>>Jean Phillippe, have you looked at PiTiVi yet or tried to use it ? I compared it to Kdenlive recently, and frankly there's no comparison at all. PiTiVi has some nice ideas but the project is in its infancy and it wasn't really usable when I last tried it (a few weeks ago). What I've seen of OpenShot so far shows me that it's already far beyond PiTiVi's current development. Perhaps it would be wiser for the PiTiVi devs to get on-board the OpenShot project. :)

Yes, I have tried PiTiVi. Sure it's far from being as good as Kdenlive, but the problem is that I rather use a GTK-application that integrates well with Gnome than a Qt-application. Both PiTiVi and OpenShot does that very well. I have also tried openShot, but it crashes as fast I push a button. I wouldn't mind that the PiTiVi-devs help openShot out, I just don't think it's wise to reinvent the weel.

So please people, don't get mad. I just want to get an answer.

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Best Jonathan Thomas (jonoomph) said : 		#4

There is a big difference between PiTiVi and OpenShot. PiTiVi is based on Gstreamer, a video playback framework. OpenShot is based on MLT, a video editing framework. Since Gstreamer was not created to edit videos, the PiTiVi crew is also developing a plug-in (Gnonlin) at the same time they are developing PiTiVi. This has slowed them down considerably. I bet 95% of all the code in OpenShot and PiTiVi is based around these video frameworks... thus, there is not much code we could share with each other.

When I first approached PiTiVi to ask some questions about how Gstreamer / Gnonlin worked, it took them more than a month to reply to me. And even then, they didn't answer my question. They made it clear to me that I was going to be on my own.

So I felt like I had no choice but to find a more suitable video editing framework, and that's what led me to MLT. I haven't looked back since. Thanks for the question!

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jeanphilippe.green@gmail.com (jeanphilippe-green) said : 		#5

Thanks Jonathan Thomas, that solved my question.

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jeanphilippe.green@gmail.com (jeanphilippe-green) said : 		#6

Thank you Jonathan Thomas, that was the answer I was waiting for.

I hope OpenShot gets more stable soon, it looks like it has a lot of potential.

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shirdi.saidasan@gmail.com (shirdi-saidasan) said : 		#7

Thanks for making the difference between pitivi and openshot very clear.