single top at high energy

Asked by Nicolas Deutschmann

Dear MG5-aMC@NLO team,

I am trying to generate single top events at NLO in the 5 flavor scheme at high energies but there seems to be a threshold (between sqrt(s)=25 and sqrt(s)=30 TeV) at which I start getting "aMCatNLOError : Some tests failed, run cannot continue".

Is there something I can do to go around this ? I am doing something wrong ?

Please find the proc card, error message, run card and logfile below

Thanks in advance for your help,
Nicolas.

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Nicolas Deutschmann (ndeutschmann) said :
#1

mg5_amc input:

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import model loop_sm-no_b_mass
define p = p b b~
define j = j b b~
generate p p > t j [QCD]
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Nicolas Deutschmann (ndeutschmann) said :
#2

Error message:

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INFO: Output of the failing test:
 Enter the Monte Carlo name: possible choices are
 HERWIG6, HERWIGPP, PYTHIA6Q, PYTHIA6PT, PYTHIA8
 Enter 0 to compute MC/MC(limit)
       1 to compute MC/ME(limit)
 Enter alpha, beta for G_soft
   Enter alpha<0 to set G_soft=1 (no ME soft)
 Enter alpha, beta for G_azi
   Enter alpha>0 to set G_azi=0 (no azi corr)
 Enter xi_i, y_ij to be used in coll/soft tests
  Enter -2 to generate them randomly
 Enter number of tests for soft and collinear limits
 Sum over helicity (0), or random helicity (1)

 ****************************************************
 ****************************************************
             Testing limits for HERWIG6
 ****************************************************
 ****************************************************

 A PDF is used, so alpha_s(MZ) is going to be modified
 Old value of alpha_s from param_card: 0.11799999999999999
 New value of alpha_s from PDF cteq6_m: 0.11799999999999999
WARNING: the value of maxjetflavorspecified in the run_card ( 4) is inconsistent with the number of light flavours inthe model. Hence it will be set to: 5
 Give FKS configuration number ("0" loops over all)

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 1
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 1
 with PDGs: i= 21 j= -1

Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs
Using random seed offsets: 0 , 5 , 0
  with seed 33
 Ranmar initialization seeds 11948 9412
nFKSprocess: 1. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 1. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 1. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 2. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 2. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 2. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 3. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 3. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 4. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 4. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 5. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 5. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 5. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 6. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 6. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 6. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 1 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
Collinear test 1 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 2
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 2
 with PDGs: i= 21 j= 2

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 2 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
Collinear test 2 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 3
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 3
 with PDGs: i= 21 j= 6

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 3 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 No collinear test for massive j_fks

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 4
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 4
 with PDGs: i= 21 j= -5

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 4 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 31
Collinear test 4 FAILED. Fraction of failures: 0.31

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 5
 FKS partons are: i= 4 j= 1
 with PDGs: i= 1 j= 21

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 5 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
Collinear test 5 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 6
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 2
 with PDGs: i= -2 j= 21

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 6 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
Collinear test 6 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
Error detected in "launch auto "
write debug file /data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/essai_ST/run_03_tag_1_debug.log
If you need help with this issue please contact us on https://answers.launchpad.net/madgraph5
aMCatNLOError : Some tests failed, run cannot continue.
 Please check that widths of final state particles (e.g. top) have been set to 0 in the param_card.dat.
quit

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Nicolas Deutschmann (ndeutschmann) said :
#3

run card:

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#***********************************************************************
# MadGraph5_aMC@NLO *
# *
# run_card.dat aMC@NLO *
# *
# This file is used to set the parameters of the run. *
# *
# Some notation/conventions: *
# *
# Lines starting with a hash (#) are info or comments *
# *
# mind the format: value = variable ! comment *
#***********************************************************************
#
#*******************
# Running parameters
#*******************
#
#***********************************************************************
# Tag name for the run (one word) *
#***********************************************************************
  tag_1 = run_tag ! name of the run
#***********************************************************************
# Number of events (and their normalization) and the required *
# (relative) accuracy on the Xsec. *
# These values are ignored for fixed order runs *
#***********************************************************************
 10000 = nevents ! Number of unweighted events requested
    -1 = req_acc ! Required accuracy (-1=auto determined from nevents)
    -1 = nevt_job! Max number of events per job in event generation.
                 ! (-1= no split).
average = event_norm ! Normalize events to sum or average to the X sect.
#***********************************************************************
# Number of points per itegration channel (ignored for aMC@NLO runs) *
#***********************************************************************
 0.01 = req_acc_FO ! Required accuracy (-1=ignored, and use the
                     ! number of points and iter. below)
# These numbers are ignored except if req_acc_FO is equal to -1
 5000 = npoints_FO_grid ! number of points to setup grids
 4 = niters_FO_grid ! number of iter. to setup grids
 10000 = npoints_FO ! number of points to compute Xsec
 6 = niters_FO ! number of iter. to compute Xsec
#***********************************************************************
# Random number seed *
#***********************************************************************
     0 = iseed ! rnd seed (0=assigned automatically=default))
#***********************************************************************
# Collider type and energy *
#***********************************************************************
    1 = lpp1 ! beam 1 type (0 = no PDF)
    1 = lpp2 ! beam 2 type (0 = no PDF)
 30000 = ebeam1 ! beam 1 energy in GeV
 30000 = ebeam2 ! beam 2 energy in GeV
#***********************************************************************
# PDF choice: this automatically fixes also alpha_s(MZ) and its evol. *
#***********************************************************************
 cteq6_m = pdlabel ! PDF set
  21100 = lhaid ! if pdlabel=lhapdf, this is the lhapdf number
#***********************************************************************
# Include the NLO Monte Carlo subtr. terms for the following parton *
# shower (HERWIG6 | HERWIGPP | PYTHIA6Q | PYTHIA6PT | PYTHIA8) *
# WARNING: PYTHIA6PT works only for processes without FSR!!!! *
#***********************************************************************
  HERWIG6 = parton_shower
#***********************************************************************
# Renormalization and factorization scales *
# (Default functional form for the non-fixed scales is the sum of *
# the transverse masses of all final state particles and partons. This *
# can be changed in SubProcesses/set_scales.f) *
#***********************************************************************
 F = fixed_ren_scale ! if .true. use fixed ren scale
 F = fixed_fac_scale ! if .true. use fixed fac scale
 91.188 = muR_ref_fixed ! fixed ren reference scale
 91.188 = muF1_ref_fixed ! fixed fact reference scale for pdf1
 91.188 = muF2_ref_fixed ! fixed fact reference scale for pdf2
#***********************************************************************
# Renormalization and factorization scales (advanced and NLO options) *
#***********************************************************************
 F = fixed_QES_scale ! if .true. use fixed Ellis-Sexton scale
 91.188 = QES_ref_fixed ! fixed Ellis-Sexton reference scale
 1 = muR_over_ref ! ratio of current muR over reference muR
 1 = muF1_over_ref ! ratio of current muF1 over reference muF1
 1 = muF2_over_ref ! ratio of current muF2 over reference muF2
 1 = QES_over_ref ! ratio of current QES over reference QES
#***********************************************************************
# Reweight flags to get scale dependence and PDF uncertainty *
# For scale dependence: factor rw_scale_up/down around central scale *
# For PDF uncertainty: use LHAPDF with supported set *
#***********************************************************************
 .true. = reweight_scale ! reweight to get scale dependence
  0.5 = rw_Rscale_down ! lower bound for ren scale variations
  2.0 = rw_Rscale_up ! upper bound for ren scale variations
  0.5 = rw_Fscale_down ! lower bound for fact scale variations
  2.0 = rw_Fscale_up ! upper bound for fact scale variations
 .false. = reweight_PDF ! reweight to get PDF uncertainty
  21101 = PDF_set_min ! First of the error PDF sets
  21140 = PDF_set_max ! Last of the error PDF sets
#***********************************************************************
# Merging - WARNING! Applies merging only at the hard-event level. *
# After showering an MLM-type merging should be applied as well. *
# See http://amcatnlo.cern.ch/FxFx_merging.htm for more details. *
#***********************************************************************
 0 = ickkw ! 0 no merging, 3 FxFx merging
#***********************************************************************
#
#***********************************************************************
# BW cutoff (M+/-bwcutoff*Gamma) *
#***********************************************************************
 15 = bwcutoff
#***********************************************************************
# Cuts on the jets *
# Jet clustering is performed by FastJet.
# When matching to a parton shower, these generation cuts should be *
# considerably softer than the analysis cuts. *
# (more specific cuts can be specified in SubProcesses/cuts.f) *
#***********************************************************************
   1 = jetalgo ! FastJet jet algorithm (1=kT, 0=C/A, -1=anti-kT)
 0.7 = jetradius ! The radius parameter for the jet algorithm
  10 = ptj ! Min jet transverse momentum
  -1 = etaj ! Max jet abs(pseudo-rap) (a value .lt.0 means no cut)
#***********************************************************************
# Cuts on the charged leptons (e+, e-, mu+, mu-, tau+ and tau-) *
# (more specific gen cuts can be specified in SubProcesses/cuts.f) *
#***********************************************************************
   0 = ptl ! Min lepton transverse momentum
  -1 = etal ! Max lepton abs(pseudo-rap) (a value .lt.0 means no cut)
   0 = drll ! Min distance between opposite sign lepton pairs
  30 = mll ! Min inv. mass of all oppositely charged lepton pairs
#***********************************************************************
# Photon-isolation cuts, according to hep-ph/9801442 *
# When ptgmin=0, all the other parameters are ignored *
#***********************************************************************
  20 = ptgmin ! Min photon transverse momentum
  -1 = etagamma ! Max photon abs(pseudo-rap)
 0.4 = R0gamma ! Radius of isolation code
 1.0 = xn ! n parameter of eq.(3.4) in hep-ph/9801442
 1.0 = epsgamma ! epsilon_gamma parameter of eq.(3.4) in hep-ph/9801442
 .true. = isoEM ! isolate photons from EM energy (photons and leptons)
#***********************************************************************
# Maximal PDG code for quark to be considered a jet when applying cuts.*
# At least all massless quarks of the model should be included here. *
#***********************************************************************
 4 = maxjetflavor
#***********************************************************************

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Nicolas Deutschmann (ndeutschmann) said :
#4

logfile:

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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/madgraph/interface/extended_cmd.py", line 872, in onecmd
    return self.onecmd_orig(line, **opt)
  File "/data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/madgraph/interface/extended_cmd.py", line 865, in onecmd_orig
    return func(arg, **opt)
  File "/data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/madgraph/interface/amcatnlo_run_interface.py", line 1184, in do_launch
    self.compile(mode, options)
  File "/data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/madgraph/interface/amcatnlo_run_interface.py", line 3283, in compile
    self.check_tests(test, this_dir)
  File "/data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/madgraph/interface/amcatnlo_run_interface.py", line 3295, in check_tests
    return self.parse_test_mx_log(pjoin(dir, '%s.log' % test))
  File "/data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/madgraph/interface/amcatnlo_run_interface.py", line 3307, in parse_test_mx_log
    ' set to 0 in the param_card.dat.')
aMCatNLOError: Some tests failed, run cannot continue.
Please check that widths of final state particles (e.g. top) have been set to 0 in the param_card.dat.
Value of current Options:
              text_editor : None
              web_browser : None
        cluster_temp_path : None
       group_subprocesses : False
                  timeout : 60
            cluster_queue : None
         madanalysis_path : None
                   lhapdf : lhapdf-config
ignore_six_quark_processes : False
             stdout_level : 20
    loop_optimized_output : True
    cluster_status_update : (600, 30)
               hepmc_path : None
             pythia8_path : None
                hwpp_path : None
   automatic_html_opening : False
       cluster_retry_wait : 300
      output_dependencies : external
          pythia-pgs_path : /data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/pythia-pgs
                 mg5_path : /data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1
                  td_path : None
             delphes_path : None
              thepeg_path : None
             cluster_type : condor
      exrootanalysis_path : None
         fortran_compiler : None
                      OLP : MadLoop
              auto_update : 7
         cluster_nb_retry : 1
               eps_viewer : None
             syscalc_path : None
                  fastjet : /data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/fastjetlib/bin/fastjet-config
                    gauge : unitary
      complex_mass_scheme : False
                  nb_core : 32
                 run_mode : 2

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marco zaro (marco-zaro) said :
#5

Ciao Nicolas,
the failing tests are nothing more than just numerical instabilities which typically arise at high energies (specially if you apply a low or no cut on the jet at the born level)
In order to have the code not complaining about them, I suggest you to edit the SubProcesses/symmetry_fks_test_ME.f
and change the maximum allowed fractions of failures (line 122)
      parameter (max_fail=0.3d0)
to some larger value (I think that 0.5 should work and should be safe).
Let me know if this solves your problem.

Cheers,

Marco

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marco zaro (marco-zaro) said :
#6

.
FAQ #2520: “Some tests are failing in aMC@NLO runs. What is going on?”.

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Nicolas Deutschmann (ndeutschmann) said :
#7

Hi Marco,

Thanks a lot for your answer. I raised the max_fail parameter to 0.5 and even 0.8 but still get the same error. However I am not sure that my change is being taken into account as in the output the highest failed test fraction reported is 0.37, so it should pass, right ? (Or is the normal output cut before reporting the set of tests which cause the failure ?)

I tried finding which makefile to use in order to compile symmetry_fks_test_ME.f but could not succeed. Are my modification indeed not compiled as I suspect ?

Cheers,
Nicolas.

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marco zaro (marco-zaro) said :
#8

Ciao Nicolas,
very strange indeed:
two things: can you please check that the symmetry_fks_test_ME.f files inside the P0_* directories are symbolic links to the one in SubProcesses (and therefore have the max_fail parameter set to 0.8)?
Then, in your process directory (the one which contains SubProcesses), try a ‘make clean’ before rerunning. Hopefully that should fix your problems.

Cheers,

Marco

On 12 May 2014, at 10:16, Nicolas Deutschmann <email address hidden> wrote:

> Question #248311 on MadGraph5_aMC@NLO changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/mg5amcnlo/+question/248311
>
> Status: Answered => Open
>
> Nicolas Deutschmann is still having a problem:
> Hi Marco,
>
> Thanks a lot for your answer. I raised the max_fail parameter to 0.5 and
> even 0.8 but still get the same error. However I am not sure that my
> change is being taken into account as in the output the highest failed
> test fraction reported is 0.37, so it should pass, right ? (Or is the
> normal output cut before reporting the set of tests which cause the
> failure ?)
>
> I tried finding which makefile to use in order to compile
> symmetry_fks_test_ME.f but could not succeed. Are my modification indeed
> not compiled as I suspect ?
>
> Cheers,
> Nicolas.
>
> --
> You received this question notification because you are a direct
> subscriber of the question.

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Nicolas Deutschmann (ndeutschmann) said :
#9

Hi Marco,

the links seem to be working. "make clean" however seems to be stuck in an infinite loop repeating the following output:

rm -f *.o
rm -f param_card.inc run_card.inc
cd MODEL; make clean; cd ..
make[369]: entrant dans le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/MODEL »
rm -f *.o ../../lib/libmodel.a
make[369]: quittant le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/MODEL »
cd CERNLIB; make clean; cd ..
make[369]: entrant dans le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/CERNLIB »
make[369]: *** Pas de règle pour fabriquer la cible « clean ». Arrêt.
make[369]: quittant le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/CERNLIB »
cd PDF; make clean; cd ..
make[369]: entrant dans le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/PDF »
rm -f *.o ../../lib/libpdf.a
make[369]: quittant le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/PDF »
cd DHELAS; make clean; cd ..
make[369]: entrant dans le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/DHELAS »
rm -f *.o ../../lib/libdhelas.a
make[369]: quittant le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/DHELAS »
cd ./CutTools/; make clean; cd ..
/bin/sh: 1: cd: can't cd to ./CutTools/
make[369]: entrant dans le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source »

There is indeed no Source/CutTools folder, maybe that is the problem ?

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marco zaro (marco-zaro) said :
#10

Ciao Nicolas
It is strange, there is no CutTools mentioned in the Makefile in the process directory (not the one in SubProcesses….)
What’s going on?
Cheers,

Marco

On 13 May 2014, at 17:51, Nicolas Deutschmann <email address hidden> wrote:

> Question #248311 on MadGraph5_aMC@NLO changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/mg5amcnlo/+question/248311
>
> Status: Answered => Open
>
> Nicolas Deutschmann is still having a problem:
> Hi Marco,
>
> the links seem to be working. "make clean" however seems to be stuck in
> an infinite loop repeating the following output:
>
> rm -f *.o
> rm -f param_card.inc run_card.inc
> cd MODEL; make clean; cd ..
> make[369]: entrant dans le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/MODEL »
> rm -f *.o ../../lib/libmodel.a
> make[369]: quittant le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/MODEL »
> cd CERNLIB; make clean; cd ..
> make[369]: entrant dans le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/CERNLIB »
> make[369]: *** Pas de règle pour fabriquer la cible « clean ». Arrêt.
> make[369]: quittant le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/CERNLIB »
> cd PDF; make clean; cd ..
> make[369]: entrant dans le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/PDF »
> rm -f *.o ../../lib/libpdf.a
> make[369]: quittant le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/PDF »
> cd DHELAS; make clean; cd ..
> make[369]: entrant dans le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/DHELAS »
> rm -f *.o ../../lib/libdhelas.a
> make[369]: quittant le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source/DHELAS »
> cd ./CutTools/; make clean; cd ..
> /bin/sh: 1: cd: can't cd to ./CutTools/
> make[369]: entrant dans le répertoire « /data/ndeutsch/SINGLEMG/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/ST/Source »
>
>
> There is indeed no Source/CutTools folder, maybe that is the problem ?
>
> --
> You received this question notification because you are a direct
> subscriber of the question.

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Nicolas Deutschmann (ndeutschmann) said :
#11

Hi Marco,

I looked inside the makefile in the process directory, and it calls the "make clean" inside Sources, which then tries to clean the CutTools directory, this is the origin of the problem for the make clean. I commented the corresponding line out and make clean now works.

However, I still get a "test failed" error message, even though the highest fraction of failures reported in the output is 0.31 so I do not know what is happening. I'll copy the output in the next comment so that you can have a look yourself.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Nicolas

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Nicolas Deutschmann (ndeutschmann) said :
#12

INFO: Output of the failing test:
 Enter the Monte Carlo name: possible choices are
 HERWIG6, HERWIGPP, PYTHIA6Q, PYTHIA6PT, PYTHIA8
 Enter 0 to compute MC/MC(limit)
       1 to compute MC/ME(limit)
 Enter alpha, beta for G_soft
   Enter alpha<0 to set G_soft=1 (no ME soft)
 Enter alpha, beta for G_azi
   Enter alpha>0 to set G_azi=0 (no azi corr)
 Enter xi_i, y_ij to be used in coll/soft tests
  Enter -2 to generate them randomly
 Enter number of tests for soft and collinear limits
 Sum over helicity (0), or random helicity (1)

 ****************************************************
 ****************************************************
             Testing limits for HERWIG6
 ****************************************************
 ****************************************************

 A PDF is used, so alpha_s(MZ) is going to be modified
 Old value of alpha_s from param_card: 0.11799999999999999
 New value of alpha_s from PDF cteq6_m: 0.11799999999999999
WARNING: the value of maxjetflavorspecified in the run_card ( 4) is inconsistent with the number of light flavours inthe model. Hence it will be set to: 5
 Give FKS configuration number ("0" loops over all)

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 1
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 1
 with PDGs: i= 21 j= -2

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs
Using random seed offsets: 0 , 8 , 0
  with seed 34
 Ranmar initialization seeds 13167 9416
nFKSprocess: 1. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 1. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 1. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 2. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 2. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 2. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 3. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 3. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 4. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 4. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 5. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 5. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 5. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 6. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 6. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
nFKSprocess: 6. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 1 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
Collinear test 1 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 2
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 2
 with PDGs: i= 21 j= 1

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 2 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
Collinear test 2 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 3
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 3
 with PDGs: i= 21 j= -6

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 3 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 No collinear test for massive j_fks

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 4
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 4
 with PDGs: i= 21 j= 5

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 4 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 31
Collinear test 4 FAILED. Fraction of failures: 0.31

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 5
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 1
 with PDGs: i= 2 j= 21

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 5 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
Collinear test 5 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 =================================================

 NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
 FKS configuration number is 6
 FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 2
 with PDGs: i= -1 j= 21

 Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs

 Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
     Soft test 6 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00

 Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
 Failures: 0
Collinear test 6 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
Error detected in "launch "
write debug file /data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/essai_ST/run_03_tag_1_debug.log
If you need help with this issue please contact us on https://answers.launchpad.net/madgraph5
aMCatNLOError : Some tests failed, run cannot continue.
 Please check that widths of final state particles (e.g. top) have been set to 0 in the param_card.dat.
quit

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Best marco zaro (marco-zaro) said :
#13

ahh,
this is test_MC
so you have also to change in symmetry_fks_test_MC
(this checks that the monte-carlo counterterms are correct)
Cheers,

Marco

On 14 May 2014, at 17:02, Nicolas Deutschmann <email address hidden> wrote:

> Question #248311 on MadGraph5_aMC@NLO changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/mg5amcnlo/+question/248311
>
> Nicolas Deutschmann posted a new comment:
> INFO: Output of the failing test:
> Enter the Monte Carlo name: possible choices are
> HERWIG6, HERWIGPP, PYTHIA6Q, PYTHIA6PT, PYTHIA8
> Enter 0 to compute MC/MC(limit)
> 1 to compute MC/ME(limit)
> Enter alpha, beta for G_soft
> Enter alpha<0 to set G_soft=1 (no ME soft)
> Enter alpha, beta for G_azi
> Enter alpha>0 to set G_azi=0 (no azi corr)
> Enter xi_i, y_ij to be used in coll/soft tests
> Enter -2 to generate them randomly
> Enter number of tests for soft and collinear limits
> Sum over helicity (0), or random helicity (1)
>
>
> ****************************************************
> ****************************************************
> Testing limits for HERWIG6
> ****************************************************
> ****************************************************
>
>
> A PDF is used, so alpha_s(MZ) is going to be modified
> Old value of alpha_s from param_card: 0.11799999999999999
> New value of alpha_s from PDF cteq6_m: 0.11799999999999999
> WARNING: the value of maxjetflavorspecified in the run_card ( 4) is inconsistent with the number of light flavours inthe model. Hence it will be set to: 5
> Give FKS configuration number ("0" loops over all)
>
> =================================================
>
> NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
> FKS configuration number is 1
> FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 1
> with PDGs: i= 21 j= -2
>
>
> Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs
> Using random seed offsets: 0 , 8 , 0
> with seed 34
> Ranmar initialization seeds 13167 9416
> nFKSprocess: 1. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 1. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 1. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 2. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 2. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 2. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 3. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 3. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 4. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 4. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 5. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 5. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 5. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 6. Absolute lower bound for tau at the Born is 0.83136E-05 0.17300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 6. Lower bound for tau is 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
> nFKSprocess: 6. Lower bound for tau is (taking resonances into account) 0.93025E-05 0.18300E+03 0.60000E+05
>
>
> Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 0
> Soft test 1 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
>
>
> Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 0
> Collinear test 1 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
>
> =================================================
>
> NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
> FKS configuration number is 2
> FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 2
> with PDGs: i= 21 j= 1
>
>
> Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs
>
>
> Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 0
> Soft test 2 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
>
>
> Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 0
> Collinear test 2 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
>
> =================================================
>
> NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
> FKS configuration number is 3
> FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 3
> with PDGs: i= 21 j= -6
>
>
> Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs
>
>
> Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 0
> Soft test 3 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
>
>
> No collinear test for massive j_fks
>
> =================================================
>
> NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
> FKS configuration number is 4
> FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 4
> with PDGs: i= 21 j= 5
>
>
> Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs
>
>
> Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 0
> Soft test 4 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
>
>
> Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 31
> Collinear test 4 FAILED. Fraction of failures: 0.31
>
> =================================================
>
> NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
> FKS configuration number is 5
> FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 1
> with PDGs: i= 2 j= 21
>
>
> Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs
>
>
> Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 0
> Soft test 5 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
>
>
> Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 0
> Collinear test 5 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
>
> =================================================
>
> NEW FKS CONFIGURATION:
> FKS configuration number is 6
> FKS partons are: i= 5 j= 2
> with PDGs: i= -1 j= 21
>
>
> Enter graph number (iconfig), '0' loops over all graphs
>
>
> Soft tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 0
> Soft test 6 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
>
>
> Collinear tests done for (Born) config 1
> Failures: 0
> Collinear test 6 PASSED. Fraction of failures: 0.00
> Error detected in "launch "
> write debug file /data/ndeutsch/Madgraph/MG5_aMC_v2_1_1/essai_ST/run_03_tag_1_debug.log
> If you need help with this issue please contact us on https://answers.launchpad.net/madgraph5
> aMCatNLOError : Some tests failed, run cannot continue.
> Please check that widths of final state particles (e.g. top) have been set to 0 in the param_card.dat.
> quit
>
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marco zaro (marco-zaro) said :
#14

Ciao Nicolas,
indeed, a bug in the make clean is there since 2.1.1
We are looking at it, sorry,

Cheers,

Marco

On 14 May 2014, at 17:02, Nicolas Deutschmann <email address hidden> wrote:

> Question #248311 on MadGraph5_aMC@NLO changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/mg5amcnlo/+question/248311
>
> Status: Answered => Open
>
> Nicolas Deutschmann is still having a problem:
> Hi Marco,
>
> I looked inside the makefile in the process directory, and it calls the
> "make clean" inside Sources, which then tries to clean the CutTools
> directory, this is the origin of the problem for the make clean. I
> commented the corresponding line out and make clean now works.
>
> However, I still get a "test failed" error message, even though the
> highest fraction of failures reported in the output is 0.31 so I do not
> know what is happening. I'll copy the output in the next comment so that
> you can have a look yourself.
>
> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
> Nicolas
>
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Nicolas Deutschmann (ndeutschmann) said :
#15

Thanks a lot Marco ! Everything seems to work fine now.

An error rate of 0.5 is sufficient to go to 60TeV but 100TeV requires 0.8. I am not doing precision predictions so it is not such of a problem I guess, but out of curiosity, how will this affect the reliability of the results ?

Thanks again for your help ! The MG support is great as usual.

Cheers,
Nicolas.

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Nicolas Deutschmann (ndeutschmann) said :
#16

Thanks marco zaro, that solved my question.