Languages

Also I´m very angry because there is more of the same when I want to visit the web page of Inkscape in ENGLISH and I can´t because 'somebody' already has decided by me.

Thank you very much by the freeware. But is really free or is priced to steal and to trample me my rights about my decisions?

What about democracy?

Thank you very much if you are concerned about the comfort of the visitors of the website of Inkscape. BUT not everybody thinks the same AND not everybody thinks like you. Thank you very much but I can decide by me
in what way and in what language I want to read the web pages. I don´t need nobody decides by me anything.

If you accept suggestions, just put a banner in a corner of the website with small icons of flags and please, let the people decide by themselves, in what languages they want to read the web page.

As protest, I have uninstalled Inkscape until I can install it in english or to choose in what language I want it in the installation process.

Thanks again.

Pat, I don't quite get the reason of your aggressive tone.

You can disable installation of localization files in installer. It's difficult to miss this checkbox in installer options when you are attentive.

You can also browse web-site in several languages other than English - we have, as you say, " a banner in a corner of the website with small icons of flags". Just be attentive - that's all you need. Or configure your browser to let it pick the right language. We probably do not have content in your native language, but since you don't care to tell us what language is your preferable, we can't tell.

Aggressive tone???
Sorry but no way.

You say: 'You can disable installation of localization files in installer. It's difficult to miss this checkbox in installer options when you are attentive".

I´m not fool and I´m very attentive, but I don´t see that button or whatever it is, in any place. Directly and without any permission appears the installer and all in another language but is not English and I cannot change it. And neither I cannot to change the language of the browser nor the language of the computer and much less just by ONE program.

Aggressive tone by a pc program???

Not but also I don´t want to be rude but: Are you blind? The most of the software made in the entire world, and also focused for to be international, it´s written in English, or as primary language English, and later you can switch to another different language during the installation or inside of the program once already installed.
That is the awful truth. And if the program cannot do this, is because or there is a bug giant like a Cathedral or there is something wrong in the software.

And you say: 'You can also browse web-site in several languages other than English - we have, as you say, ' a banner in a corner of the website with small icons of flags'. Just be attentive - that's all you need. Or configure your browser to let it pick the right language. We probably do not have content in your native language, but since you don't care to tell us what language is your preferable, we can't tell'.

When I visit the web-site I see flags, maaaaany flags, but I don´t see ANY from USA or UK or CANADA or AUSTRALIA or NEW ZEALAND.
Where are these flags? Right now for to be really sure I´m seeing 7 flags but NONE from these countries.

'We probably do not have content in your native language, but since you don't care to tell us what language is your preferable, we can't tell'.

I just wanted to read the web-page in English and nothing more because as reader it´s my right. Is so easy. So please: Where is the web page of Inkscape in English???

If I want to read the webpage in English I have to Disable CSS and click in the link: 'The page in english' and click in Enable CSS. This is a little trick but is not the right way. It seems that this is another bug in the web-site.

Let´s we see... I cannot read the web page in English... I cannot download the software in English... I cannot install the program in English... Too many bugs.

Also as I said before, I don´t care this anymore, because I already uninstalled the program and as I´m in strike, doing my protest i´m not going to install it, untill I can do it in English.

I´m not paranoic, it´s very clear that 'somebody' wants to decide in the place of the people. Too many bugs, too much.

Thank you and good bye.

"Aggressive tone???"

Yes, it is aggressive. But no worries — I'm patient enough to keep answering, even though I very much doubt that I should keep talking to someone who is shouting at me for no good reason.

"I´m not fool and I´m very attentive, but I don´t see that button or whatever it is, in any place."

The next screen after the license agreement one is where you choose what components to install. If you care to scroll down you will see a comprehensive list of languages. You can disable all but English or leave just one you need.

"Directly and without any permission appears the installer and all in another language but is not English and I cannot change it."

While it's true that you cannot change language of installer, the installer itself respects your locale settings and uses them. If you want software to speak English to you, you need to change your locale settings.

"When I visit the web-site I see flags, maaaaany flags, but I don´t see ANY from USA or UK or CANADA or AUSTRALIA or NEW ZEALAND. Where are these flags? Right now for to be really sure I´m seeing 7 flags but NONE from these countries."

Inkscape is driven by community. Translations are done by community. You are welcome to contribute a flag and a localized translation of the website to match the flag. You are not welcome to blame community for not doing something it isn't forced to do. You are also not welcome to blame developers for not doing what community is supposed to do.

"I just wanted to read the web-page in English and nothing more because as reader it´s my right. Is so easy. So please: Where is the web page of Inkscape in English???"

http://inkscape.org/?lang=en&css=css/base.css

"If I want to read the webpage in English I have to Disable CSS and click in the link"

Why would you want to do that?

"I´m not paranoic, it´s very clear that 'somebody' wants to decide in the place of the people. "

You are free to believe in whatever you want to believe.

If the question is answered, please consider closing it. Otherwise please let us know what wasn't answered.

Maybe this could be a quick fix to de-internationalize the program:

Delete everything (or just the language you do not want) *in* the following directories:
C:\Program Files\Inkscape\lib\locale
C:\Program Files\Inkscape\locale

It should have the same effect as unmarking the checkboxes during installation, only you do not need to reinstall.

Alternatively: In your operating system settings, create a variable with name "lang" and value "en". Inkscape respects this variable, and it also works for some other programs. You can edit it by right-clicking "My Computer" and selecting "Properties | Advanced | Environment Variables | New".

You could use this trick for starting Inkscape on one computer in several languages (for example if more people use the same user account). You can create a *.BAT file like this:

set lang=en
"C:\Program Files\Inkscape\inkscape.exe"

The *.BAT file should be better like this:

set lang=en
start "C:\Program Files\Inkscape\inkscape.exe"

then it does not leave opened additional command-line window. If you make a shortcut for this file on your desktop, you can start Inkscape in multiple languages very easily.

Pat, I think you should re-read your messages and maybe apologize. First, when you speak about your "rights", you should first read the license which comes with Inkscape. It explicitly says that there is "NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM [...] COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES PROVIDE THE PROGRAM "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND [...] INCLUDING [...] FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU." You should have read this, because using the program contrary to its license may be kind of illegal. Relax, nobody is going to sue you or whatever; this is just to make your legal situation clear.

Second, it is not like you paid for the program and now have the right to demand an adequate value for your payment. Contrariwise, you are using some else's work for free. Being polite to them is the least thing you can do. If the authors are nice people, they will help you, but they are not your slaves, employees, paid support, nor even business partners; they are really in no way obliged to help you or even to speak with you. So putting your demand in strong words can easily have the opposite effect. The correct tone could be like this:

"I would like to use Inkscape in English language, but the installed program starts in XYZ language, even the webpage is always displayed in XYZ language. I cannot find any option to change the language or download an English version. Can you please help me?"

(Also in this situation it is irrelevant, but generally it is a good idea to include an information like: "I am using Inkscape version 1.2.3 on operating system Windows XYZ." Because the problem may depend in this; however this one does not.)

Well, I'm gonna tell you something

You are not doing the things right but I don't care, because you can do all what you want.
I'm not using Inkscape and I'm not gonna use it NEVER ANYMORE.

I'm not aggressive and I don't need any relax and you are nobody for to tell me nothing about this. But I'm gonna tell you something about this

You have a great imagination if you think that I put aggressive etc, by a software that nor even I'm using. Definitely Hollywood needs you as scriptwriter. So don't miss the opportunity.

I'm very busy like you, and like everybody, and for me everything it's said and done. Because in my opinion you are abusing of the tools for webmasters for to know who is visiting the web page of Inkscape and also to impose "your own laws" about how the people should to read and to use the software Inkscape.

And yes, you have the entire right of to know who's visiting the web site of Inkscape but you don't have any right of to tell to the people how they have to do the things, so you don't have any right of to tell me in what language I have to read the web page of Inkscape and much less in what way or language how I have to install the program in my computer. And the config of my computer, my language, and my country, etc are personal matters in where you have nothing to do because are personal matters. As I told you before, nobody have any right of to choose the things in my place. I can do it alone, thank you.

Also, in my opinion, you are so blind by the hallucinatory effects of praises, that you are unable of to admit an error and you want to have right, cost what it costs. And since we are not agree and never we will be, I'm not gonna apologize of anything that I say and you can say all what you want because I don't care. Inkscape is out of my computer and end of story.

And about the licence of the program, for to make trash better don't do anything. Because it seems that you make any kind of software, and the rest of the world have to bear with the things that you impose and perhaps this is okay for some people but not for me, sorry.

Perhaps Inkscape is not trash, perhaps Inkscape is a good software, but the license and the way in what the part of the language is made and configured, it is, and I don't want trash in my computer.

I'm not gonna to teach you anything new, but look around and you will find LOADS of websites in where the first thing that they ask you is in what language do you want to read the content, and in the same way when you install a software the first thing that ask you the installer is in what language you want to install the software.
And this people is doing the things right AND YOU NOT. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. THAT YOU ARE UNABLE OR DON'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND.
You can to investigate all what you want with tools of webmaster but you don't have any right of to impose anything to anybody and much less in A PERSONAL COMPUTER, BECAUSE IT'S PERSONAL, EXACTLY AS SAY THE PHRASE.
And If you are unable of to understand this, even explained for children of 5 years old, is just because YOU ARE A TRAMPLER OF RIGHTS, TRYING TO IMPOSE "YOUR SPECIAL WAY OF TO DO THE THINGS, AND YOUR SPECIAL WAY OF TO THINK" WHEN THE AWFUL TRUTH IS THAT NOBODY CARES ABOUT IN WHAT WAY YOU WANNA MAKE THE THINKS. SO PLEASE LET THE PEOPLE ALONE, THEY CAN TO DECIDE BY THEMSELVES AND DON'T NEEDS YOU FOR TO DECIDE ANYTHING. I'M SORRY FOR YOU.

AND ABOUT TO APOLOGIZE??? THE ONLY ONE THAT SHOULD TO APOLOGIZE IS YOU AND NOBODY ELSE BECAUSE YOU ARE THE TRAMPLER OF RIGHTS, STEALING TO THE PEOPLE THE LEGITIMATE RIGHT TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES IN WHAT WAY THEY WANT THE THINGS, NOT ME.

AND WELL, FOR ME, THIS MATTER IS ALREADY ANSWERED AND SOLVED SINCE I TOLD YOU THAT I'M NOT GOING TO USE NEVER ANYMORE INKSCAPE, SO PLEASE, I DON'T CARE WHAT ELSE DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS OR WHAT IF YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING OR NOT. OKAY? SO I WISH YOU THE BEST AND GOOD LUCK, Mr TRAMPLER AND FRIENDS.

The world is full of people like you, so some more persons for the club of the tramplers, who cares? and never mind, and they are welcome. So have fun!!!

Good bye.

THINKING WELL....

DO YOU WANNA TO SEE A CLEAR EXAMPLE ABOUT WHEN THE THINGS ARE WELL DONE???
YOU CAN VISITS THE WEB OF SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY, AND THE FIRST THING THAT THEY ASK YOU IS IN WHAT LANGUAGE DO YOU WANNA SEE THE SITE AND IT'S THE SAME WHEN YOU INSTALL THEIR SOFTWARE AND IS FREEWARE OF VERY GOOD QUALITY.
SO THEY ARE DOING IT WELL, AND YOU NOT.
SO NOW, PERHAPS YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE, BUT IF YOU STILL NOT SEE IT, I DON'T CARE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK TO WASTE MY TIME MORE WITH THIS STUPID DISCUSSION.

BYE!

And now please consider closing the question

OKAY!!! PERFECT!!! DONE!!!

BYE!!!